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Wil jy weet wie was jou voorouers
« on: September 21, 2021, 09:22:00 AM »

Bladsy 549 van my familiestamboom wat ek in Power point doen.  As julle ooit Pieternella van die Kaap gelees het, sal julle die geskiedenis van Eva en haar dogter Pieternella ken. 

Nou moet ek net gou 'n paar dinge gaan doen dan kom deel ek die volgende paar bladsye met julle. 



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Re: Wil jy weet wie was jou voorouers
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2021, 09:46:33 AM »
 Wonderlike voorreg PM! Hierdie merkwaardige vroutjie was ook ons kleinseun se 18de oumagrootjie in skoondogter hulle se stamboom. Ongelooflik om die stamboom nou so te kan sien. Ek sal vir jou die skakel kom vasmaak waar ek in 2012 'n opsomming van die treffendste dele uit die boek gemaak het.

https://forum.afrikaanseforum.co.za/index.php?topic=1508.msg8429#msg8429

 

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Re: Wil jy weet wie was jou voorouers
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2021, 12:38:38 PM »
Ek is rasend oor Dalene se skrywe.
Haar Fiela se Kind was vir my n hoogtepunt in my bestaan op aarde. Die film is nimmer-sterwend mooi.
Ek was al by die Knysna bosse oor haar inspirasie.
En daardie gesegdes Meraai is bewaar-mooi.

Kan jy glo...ons het mekaar so in die kronkel gange van die lewe tussen Woes en Nou verloor, en tog op eienaardige maniere besig gebly met Woord en Daad.
Na 15 jaar se navorsing, en 2 ander navorsers waarvan een skielik oorlede is en die ander opgegee het, het ek in 2012 n Stamboon gepubliseer vir die nageslag aan my ma hulle se kant.
Ek het die voorgeskiedenis van 1783 ingesit, en gekonsentreer op slegs van my direkte oupa en ouma af, met my ma-hulle as 15 kinders in totaal, waarvan 2 stief sussies was.
In 2012 besef ek dat dit n projek is wat nooit ophou nie. Toe wag ek vir een seuntjie se geboorte, sit hom in en seg AMEN.
Ek sou graag n opvolg wou maak, maar my tyd is te min, dis vreeslik baie tyd berowend.

n Mens moet nie wag nie, more is wel nog n dag, maar dis nie te sê ek is in daardie dag nie, nê?
Die opvolg boek sal moontlik makliker wees, want ek hoef net by te voeg, en te bevestig wie na die Ewige verhuis het, wie getroud en wie weggedraai het. Dis nogal n gedoente. Jy kan bv nie sommer net iemand delete nie. Nee, jy moet n register invul om te bevestig dat hierdie persoon geskei het en nie meer deel is nie, en as daar kinders was, bly die kind mos deel. So die diagramme sal altyd so persoon wys.
Jy kan ook nie n stiefkind in"dokter" by n familie nie, nee, jy moet die proses volg om te bevestig wie die kind se biologiese ouers is, en so kind wys dan in n afdeling as die aangetroude se kind, en in die struktuur sal so kind by wys.

My waaier-diagram (net van my ouma en oupa af), was destyds so groot, ek kon dit net by NASHUA printers gaan print, en dan moet jy nog n vergrootglas gebruik vir die name..
Net vir die interessantheid. (is dit 2 erre?)
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« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2021, 01:25:23 PM »
Ja lief Antjie, dit is 2 erre.   :love7:
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« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2021, 04:50:46 PM »



Hier is dit ten einde laaste.  'n Paar bladsye van my stamboom.  Ek het gesukkel om dit van Power Point af te laai, maar aanhouer wen.
Dit is dalk baie inligting, maar dalk wil iemand nog meer weet, dan plaas ek nog 'n paar bladsye. 

[205] Pieter Havgard van Meerhoff  ?-1677
and
Krotoa Goringhaicona aka Eva van die Kaap 1642-1674
 
Pieter Havgard van Meerhoff from Copenhagen in Denmark arrived at the Cape on board the ship Princess Royael. He was a soldier, discoverer and explorer and later a medical doctor at the Cape. He married on 12.4.1664 in the little church in the wooden Cape Fort, Eva van die Kaap, a Hottentot girl called Krotoa from the Goringhaicona tribe of Hottentots. 
 
Born in about 1642, and from the age of about 10  years, Krotoa named Eva  by Jan van Riebeeck, grew up and worked in the van Riebeeck household at the Fort. She was the first  Khoi-San (Hottentot) woman to appear in the V.O.C. and European records of the early Cape Settlement, who as an individual personality interacted socially and culturally with the Dutch settlers. She spoke Dutch and Portuguese and her job was as interpreter with the Hottentots. Her uncle was Autshumo Goringhaicona, called Herrie die Strandlooper by the Dutch with whom they traded cattle. Autshumo/Herrie was the chief of the Goringhaicon tribe, as this group of Hottentots referred to themselves. Herrie to the surprise of Jan van Riebeeck and recorded as such in van Riebeeck’s diary, Herrie could speak English. On 3 May 1662 Krotoa/Eva was baptised in the Christian religion.
 
Now married Krotoa/Eva van die Kaap and Pieter Havgard van Meerhoff went to live on Robben Island (the island has been a prison since 1652), where van Meerhoff was the island super-intendent.
 
Pieter was also sent to work in Mauritius for a few years, and relocated with his family, eventually returning to the Cape.
 
After Pieter van Meerhoff’s murder in 1677 Krotoa/Eva returned with her children from Robben Island to the mainland. Eva was an alcoholic and was regularly banished to Robben island for disorderly conduct. She died on 29.7.1674 and was buried in the church at the Fort. She had three children that survived infancy.
 
Pieter Havgard van Meerhof and Krotoa/Eva’s children:
          1.     Saloman van Meerhoff baptised in cape Town on 1.9.1665.
          2.     Jacobus van Meerhoff, died as a child.
   
          3.     Pieternella van Meerhoff born in Mauritius in 1673 married Daniel Zaaijman [206] from Vlissingen, a farmer on
                  the island of Mauritius. They returned to the Cape in 1709 where Daniel died in 1714. Pieternella is regarded as a
                  significant ancestor as many South African families can trace their roots back to her – your de Bruyn/Duvenhage
                  line of descent.
Now you know where the old saying comes from! “My groot groot
oupa-grootjie was Herrie die Standlooper.” Herrie and his followers/tribe
roamed the coastal region from Cape Agulhas to Cape Town, and Herrie
through helping shipwreck survivors learned to Sprechen d’ Engels
(speak English), as recorded by Jan van Riebeeck. Herrie was also the first
to greet Jan van Riebeeck and his contingent, in English, soon after they
arrived in Table Bay.   
 
 
Krotoa Goringhaicona /Eva van die Kaap, mother of Pieternella van Meerhof.
 
 Philatelic First Day Special Folder commemorating the 360th anniversary of the arrival of Jan van Riebeek at the Cape of Good Hope. The image is based on the archived sketches of the Hottentots in this period of time

[206] Daniel Zaaijman 1650-1714
and
Pieternella van Meerhoff 1663-1713
 
Daniel Zaaijman was born in 1650 in Vlissingen, Zeeland, in the Netherlands. He began a 15 year vryburgherkontrak (free citizen’s contract) in the service of the V.O.C and was stationed at Mauritius, also a Dutch East India Company Settlement. Here he worked as a ships navigator, carpenter and kuiper, (cooper- maker of vats and barrels). 
 
In 1696, having gained his free burger rights he helped his family plant sweet potatoes on the Lemoenboomvlakte. He had two slaves to help him and he was expected to plant and harvest 1000 half-aums of sweet potatoes yearly, for which the Mauritian Commander calculated between 30 and 40 extra slaves were needed to fulfil the V.O.C expectations.
 
In Mauritius he married the 14 year old Pieternella van Meerhoff on 30.10.1677. Pieternella was born at the Cape in 1663, the daughter of Pieter Havgard van Meerhoff [205] and Krotoa/Eva van die Kaap.
 
For some reason the Dutch decided to abandon the settlement on Mauritius, and Daniel elected to go to the Cape with his wife and children, instead of Batavia. On 26.1.1709, Daniel Zaaijman and wife Pieternella van Meerhoff, returned to Cape Town.  On 11.3.1711 Daniel and his son Pieter informed the Burger Raad (Citizen’s Council) that they were planning to move from the Cape District to the Stellenbosch District, and permission was granted. Here he bought a small farm named Patrijzen Valleij. He died aged 64 years in Stellenbosch in 1714. Pieternella died the previous year in 1713, at 50 years of age. Their deaths the result of smallpox, which also claimed their two youngest sons.
 
At the time of his death Daniel he owned a house and yard in Table Valley, address: Block GG, numbers 11 and 12. Jan Jacob Stockvliet bought the house out of Daniel’s estate in March 1715. Daniel did not own much: a bed, mattress and pillows. Table and kitchen ware, plus a very large stock of silver buttons and trouser fittings. Maybe he traded in these. There was also a chest with coopering tools, from his original trade.
 
The name Zaaijman, is in later years, also spelled Zaayman, Saaiman and Saayman.
 
Their children were all born in Mauritius and the last three were baptised in Cape Town:
          1.     Catherina Zaaijman, born 27.9.1679, married in 1694 Roelof Diodati, born in Dordrecht, Netherlands in 1658.
                  Roelof was of Swiss/Italian descent. He was the Opperhoof, Commander of Mauritius and later Governor of
                  Deshima on the Japanese coast. He died in Batavia on 10.3.1723, aged 65 years.
          2.     Eva Zaaijman, born on 10.6.1680/82, married in 1712 Herbert Jansz van der Meyden in Mauritius and they also
                  returned to the Cape. Herbert was from Schoonhoven in the  Netherlands and they lived at the Swartriviermond.
                  On Herbert’s death Eva married in Stellenbosch on 20.9.1711 Joannis Johan Smit, from Niewekerk, Delft in the
                  Netherlands. Eva died at Cape Town, a year after her marriage in 1713, from smallpox.
 
          3.     Magdalena Zaaijman, born 1683, died in Mauritius on 6.11.1704. She married in 1697, Johannes (Jan)
                  Bockelenberg [207a]. He was born in Germany in 1668, a medical surgeon for the V.O.C in Mauritius from 1697 to
                  1704. In 1705 widower Johannes returned to the Cape, where he worked as a free burgher surgeon. He owned
                  the property Moddergat, near Stellenbosch. Johannes died in 1709 - my Steenkamp and your next de Bruyn line
                  of descent.
                 
          4.     Maria Martha Maryke (Maijke) Zaaijman, born 28.5.1686, died of smallpox in the Cape in 1713. She married
                  progenitor Hendrik  Abraham de Vries, from Oudekerk, Amsterdam, in Mauritius in 1699, when she was but 13
                  years old. He was baptised on 17.7.1676, became a ship’s carpenter on the ship Noordwykvlakte, based at
                  Mauritius. They also moved back to the Cape in 1708. He died in Cape Town in 1744.
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